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Gustav Clark's avatar

Good, thought provoking, so here are my thoughts:

1. Ammonia. For all my life there has been no progress on nitrogen fixation, but recently there are several lines of work that are promising. In particular, electrochemistry is really moving into industry and there are some good results of N fixation with this technique. If it works we can have small units using locally generated power.

2. Other fertilisers. We are getting much more efficient at not losing K and P to runoff, so cutting the amounts required.

3. Transport should transition to EV quite easily, as heavy trucks have quite a short life. This reduces the energy required by a factor of around 4.

4. Agricultural machinery will get lighter as we move to autonomous vehicles and minimum plough methodologies

5. Solar farms have proved compatible with livestock and to some extent arable, so farms can generate power for themselves and for export to cities.

6. I see no mechanism which translates a breakdown in the current system into a flow reversal. If anything increased demand for food makes agriculture more profitable, so increasing the value of productive land relative to converting it to housing. Society can handle a transition to high cost food so long as there time is long enough.

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John Gonter's avatar

Thanks for this post. Some great quotes--I restacked it twice and could have a couple more times.

I like the term stratification. Cities are built, and their allure sold, on multiple layers of dependence. You can live in the city, as I did for a good part of my life, and never see much of what sustains you. Your water, food, sewer, heat, electric power etc,....is all trucked, pumped, cabled etc,... to you. This complete disconnect from the natural world, which supports all of our needs, makes possible our continued reliance on high energy consumption. If 80-85% of North Americans live in urban areas, including our policy makers--they just don't have any relationship to or visibility of their life support systems.

I am impressed you are suggesting positive directions for our high-energy Western societies to go in. I'm afraid I'm not as hopeful.

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